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Monday, July 8th 2024
by AleksandarKDiscuss (100 Comments)
As AMD prepares to roll out its next-generation Ryzen 9000 series of CPUs based on Zen 5 architecture, we are starting to see some systems being tested by third-party OEMs and system integrators. Today, we have Geekbench 6 scores of the Ryzen 9 9900X CPU, and the 12-core, 24-thread processor that has demonstrated impressive performance gains. Boasting a base clock of 4.4 GHz and a boost clock of up to 5.6 GHz, the CPU features only 120 W TDP, a significant reduction from the previous 170 W of the previous generation. In Geekbench 6 tests, the Ryzen 9 9900X achieved a single-core score of 3,401 and a multicore score of 19,756.
These results place it ahead of Intel's current flagship Core i9-14900KS, which scored 3,189 points in single-core performance. Regarding multicore tasks, the i9-14900K scored 21,890 points, still higher than AMD's upcoming 12-core SKU. The benchmark of AMD's CPU was conducted on an ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Gene motherboard with 32 GB of DDR5 memory. As anticipation builds for the official release, these early benchmarks suggest that AMD will deliver a compelling product that balances high performance with improved energy efficiency. The top tier models will still carry a 170 W TDP, while some high-end and middle-end SKUs get a TDP reduction like the Ryzen 7 9700X and Ryzen 5 9600X dial down to 65 W, decreased from 105 W in their previous iterations.
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FoulOnWhiteTypical AMD comment, getting boring now yawn, try something new
To be fair they are using the same arguments pretty much Intel fans were using back in 2017. "you can't compare the 7700k to the r7 1700 because 4 vs 8 cores". Like who the hell cares, lol. Like sure, it is true that Intel is only faster and more efficient in most segments BECAUSE they have more cores at every price point, but why are amd fans using that as a negative thing I can't understand. Suddenly it's a bad thing having more cores, like I don't get it. What the hell?
We are at a point right now that the brand new shining R7 9700x will not just be losing to last years 14700, or the 2 generations old 13700k, but I'm not even sure it will confidently beat the 12700k from 2021 in MT. What the hell is this?
fevgatosWe are at a point right now that the brand new shining R7 9700x will not just be losing to last years 14700, or the 2 generations old 13700k, but I'm not even sure it will confidently beat the 12700k from 2021 in MT. What the hell is this?
I'm sitting in the middle of this brand war. I take the side of who has the best product. I'm not brand loyal either. I currently have a 5950x and I'm looking to upgrade next year.
But you are correct, if this chip does not beat a 3-year-old CPU, then it's a failure. I'm very interested in how Zen 5 will compete against Intel's upcoming offerings a little later this year, as that's the fair fight, not looking backwards, but it will be disappointing if AMD lose against existing products. We also have to see how removing HT will affect performance. HT is worth up to +-30% or so, and all I have heard from Intel is something about a 20% IPC improvement, and it is very unlikely that clockspeeds will go up. So, where the other 10% is going to come from is unknown.
I'm looking forward to the independent benchmarks, I think it's going to be a good year for CPU's, depending on price.
Intel missed the boat with e-DRAM tbh. Waiting for Panther Lake for Intel to bring the beans until then I expect further inroads from AMD with the gaming community with their X3D design. AMD might have the slight edge until next year, Intel caught sleeping.
stimpy88I'm sitting in the middle of this brand war. I take the side of who has the best product. I'm not brand loyal either. I currently have a 5950x and I'm looking to upgrade next year.But you are correct, if this chip does not beat a 3-year-old CPU, then it's a failure. I'm very interested in how Zen 5 will compete against Intel's upcoming offerings a little later this year, as that's the fair fight, not looking backwards, but it will be disappointing if AMD lose against existing products. We also have to see how removing HT will affect performance. HT is worth up to +-30% or so, and all I have heard from Intel is something about a 20% IPC improvement, and it is very unlikely that clockspeeds will go up. So, where the other 10% is going to come from is unknown.
I'm looking forward to the independent benchmarks, I think it's going to be a good year for CPU's, depending on price.
This chip beats a 3 year old cpu in the most relevant metric for CONSUMER cpus, single core performance.
Small difference in Cinebench or the geekbench MT numbers are meaningless - expecially the former, as it's not even affected by memory performance that is also quite important ie access times for games and music production and bandwith for graphical / video stuff.
WhenMusicAttacksThis chip beats a 3 year old cpu in the most relevant metric for CONSUMER cpus, single core performance.
Small difference in Cinebench or the geekbench MT numbers are meaningless - expecially the former, as it's not even affected by memory performance that is also quite important ie access times for games and music production and bandwith for graphical / video stuff.
If ST performance is the most relevant metric for CONSUMER cpus, doesn't that mean that Intel has been dominating the past 3 years, from 2021 onwards? They have the ST lead the whole time, right?
:roll:
browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-5-7600
browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-5-7600x
browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i5-13500
browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i5-13600k
the cheapest AMD 6 core has better ST than the 100 euros more intel one
takes 150 euros difference for intel to beat the 7600 non X: browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i5-14600k
yes, AMD is dominating the consumer market for people that actually have a choiche and build their own machine
in my country they have 8 out of the10 best selling CPUs on amazon for that reason
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WhenMusicAttacks:roll:browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-5-7600
browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-5-7600x
browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i5-13500
browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i5-13600k
the cheapest AMD 6 core has better ST than the 100 euros more intel one
yes, AMD is dominating the consumer market for people that actually have a choiche and build their own machine
in my country they have 8 out of the10 best selling CPUs on amazon for that reason
dgianstefani
what part of " for people that actually have a choiche and build their own machine " you don't understand?
You know, most people don't do that. But yeah, arguing with intel fans gets this kind of nonsense.
WhenMusicAttacks:roll:browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-5-7600
browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-5-7600x
browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i5-13500
browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i5-13600k
the cheapest AMD 6 core has better ST than the 100 euros more intel one
takes 150 euros difference for intel to beat the 7600 non X: browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i5-14600k
yes, AMD is dominating the consumer market for people that actually have a choiche and build their own machine
in my country they have 8 out of the10 best selling CPUs on amazon for that reason
Bud please, stop. Geekbench 6 is a joke but, even then... Intel is clearly ahead in the ST portion of geekbench. So according to your own metrics, Intel has been dominating the last few years. Here are the numbers. I don't expect you to admit but whatever
For Intel
For AMD
The fastest AMD chip gets 9th place....
Let's now use techpowerup's ST numbers
Still 7th place...
Realize you are commenting on an article based on geekbench number. And while you don't think it's a valid benchmark, you say that a margin of error advantage for the super expansive intel cpus on that same test is "domination". Yeah, special edition customers for special edition cpus.
I compare consumer cpus at similar value, well actually AMD that cost 50% less beat intel ones there. That's again why people that can actually read numbers and connect them in a meaningful way choose AMD.
WhenMusicAttacksRealize you are commenting on an article based on geekbench number. And while you don't think it's a valid benchmark, you say that a margin of error advantage for the super expansive intel cpus on that same test is "domination". Yeah, special edition customers for special edition cpus.I compare consumer cpus at similar value, well actually AMD that cost 50% less beat intel ones there. That's again why people that can actually read numbers and connect them in a meaningful way choose AMD.
Yeah, right. There is only one KS chip in that list. The other 7 cpus that beat AMD's best are not KS chips. The super expensive (lol) 14700kf costs 410€ and handily beats the 7950x, amd's fastest, that costs 550.
I guess that's why Intel has 70% of the desktop market.
AMD's best selling chip is the 7800x 3d, which is literally at the bottom of the list in ST performance. So your whole argument makes 0 sense. If ST was important then the 7800x 3d wouldn't be selling at all.
P4-630Q4 intel will crush that score once again... :D
What about the measly multi-threaded performance, that can't even reach the old intel? :rolleyes:
videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-9900x-tops-geekbench-single-core-ranking-crosses-5-65-ghz-clock
fevgatosYeah, right. There is only one KS chip in that list. The other 7 cpus that beat AMD's best are not KS chips. The super expensive (lol) 14700kf costs 410€ and handily beats the 7950x, amd's fastest, that costs 550.I guess that's why Intel has 70% of the desktop market.
AMD's best selling chip is the 7800x 3d, which is literally at the bottom of the list in ST performance. So your whole argument makes 0 sense. If ST was important then the 7800x 3d wouldn't be selling at all.
The top scores being 0,5% off each other matters a lot less when the mainstream parts AMD has more than 10% advantage while using half the cores.
The market is made mostly by people that do not choose their parts - heck, they don't even choose the machine, the IT in their company does.
Yes, 7800x3d has incredible advantage in the mosti important metric for DIY market, gaming performance that doesn't need memory tuning. That is why the incredible intel cpus are not there.
WhenMusicAttacksThe market is made mostly by people that do not choose their parts - heck, they don't even choose the machine, the IT in their company does.
These are companies' machines, they do not belong privately to the employees :D
ARFWhat about the measly multi-threaded performance, that can't even reach the old intel? :rolleyes:
videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-9900x-tops-geekbench-single-core-ranking-crosses-5-65-ghz-clock
About 5% better multicore when single is more than 10% behind? That's why no one cares, i'd take the single threaded lead anyday and so should 99% of customers. Some will still be under the impression that they need the cores, then when applications start to actualy make use of all of them find out their intel cpus are unstable. That's nice.
ARFThese are companies' machines, they do not belong privately to the employees :D
Does that mean they disappear from hardware surveys and are not on the market? What is the point of your comment? Where di imply they own their machines?
WhenMusicAttacksAbout 5% better multicore when single is more than 10% behind? That's why no one cares, i'd take the single threaded lead anyday and so should 99% of customers. Some will still be under the impression that they need the cores, then when applications start to actualy make use of all of them find out their intel cpus are unstable. That's nice.
Multi-core performance is important, single-core is not, that's why you get hybrid architectures with slow, atom-like cores.
The performance here is so poor, another skip generation.
WhenMusicAttacksThe top scores being 0,5% off each other matters a lot less when the mainstream parts AMD has more than 10% advantage while using half the cores.The market is made mostly by people that do not choose their parts - heck, they don't even choose the machine, the IT in their company does.
Yes, 7800x3d has incredible advantage in the mosti important metric for DIY market, gaming performance that doesn't need memory tuning. That is why the incredible intel cpus are not there.
2 posts ago you said the most important metric for consumers was ST. Now you are saying it's gaming performance....make up your mind bud.
oxrufiioxobarely beating a 2 year old architecture will never be impressive
It's funny how when Intel is doing nothing AMD is still the company that gets berated for not doing more. You'd think after that whole decade of quad cores, the undying 14nm and skylake rehashed a million times they would have learned their lesson but apparently not.
AMD is still doing a whole lot more than Intel ever did even though they really don't have to, they could probably keep the 7800X3D for another 2 years or so with nothing else new and it would still be a top seller. I am impressed they're not sitting on their asses and are still actively developing new CPUs.
dgianstefani14900KS has 24 cores.
efficiency core is Atom core. Atom core is half of Pentium core. 2 efficiency cores are like one normal core. 16 e cores are 8 normal ones. i guess
Vya Domus...., single thread performance is becoming more and more inconsequential, it's just a metric these companies keep clinging on for marketing purposes like clock speed used to be.
Just a note: The most popular programming language according to Tiobe index, Python, is mostly single-threaded. Single-thread performance is inconsequential only in a world where most programming languages are concurrent programming languages.
i get the best for my needs(could be st or mt performance) and my low money can get me. nuff said
Cool to see progress here. Also terrific they've caught up with Intel here. Though would save breath discussing Geekbench test as it is of little importance
Uh huh..
Zen 5 performs that way thanks to the beta testers for Zen 4..now, Zen 5 buyers, you beta test for Zen 6.. :roll:
atomsymbolThe most popular programming language according to Tiobe index, Python, is mostly single-threaded.
I don't know what "mostly single threaded" is supposed to mean, python like virtually all languages has support for threading.
Vya DomusI don't know what "mostly single threaded" is supposed to mean, python like virtually all languages has support for threading.
By that logic, even assembly language (such as: *.S files in Linux) has support for threading: you "just" invoke the clone() syscall and your program "suddenly" runs 650% faster on any 8-core CPU. ---- Or, the previous sentence is false and it is much more complicated than that.
